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標題: 請問什麼叫做香腸、火腿族? [打印本頁]

作者: clarkj 時間: 2016-1-7 00:39
標題: 請問什麼叫做香腸、火腿族?
香腸、火腿有何差異呢?^^

作者: clarkj 時間: 2016-1-7 01:04

可樂熊發表於 2016-1-7 01:00
簡單說就是有沒有取的使用執照

火腿族就是有取得使用執照，香腸族就是沒有 ...

收到~ 名稱的由來有典故嗎? ^^

作者: jungping 時間: 2016-1-7 06:48
ham

n. 名詞
火腿[U][C]
I had ham and eggs for breakfast . 早飯我吃了火腿與蛋。

（動物的）臀部[P1]

【俚】蹩腳演員[C]
That guy is a real ham , but the girls love him . 那傢伙真會裝腔作勢，但是女孩子都喜歡他。

【口】火腿族；業餘無線電愛好者[C]

vt. 及物動詞
【俚】把（角色）演得過火[（+up）]
He hammed up his part in the play . 他把在劇中擔任的角色演過了火。

vi. 不及物動詞
【俚】表演過火

作者: BU2CK 時間: 2016-1-7 07:10
本帖最後由 BU2CK 於 2016-1-7 07:21 編輯

火腿族就是 HAM, 即表示有取得使用執照的人員; 而香腸族就是沒有取得使用執照的人員...
我想, 大概是香腸和火腿同屬這一類加工過的紅肉, 而且香腸比火腿小隻, 所以就取同義字出來吧....
以下是一些網站所發表的 HAM 由來, 請自行查閱吧.

By Gerry Crenshaw (WD4BIS) (This was previously published in the Amateur Radio Communicator MARCH/APRIL 1994)

Have you ever wondered why we radio amateurs are called "HAMS"? Well, according to the Northern Ohio Radio Society, it goes like this: the word ham was applied in 1908 and was the call letters of one of the first Amateur wireless stations operated by some members of the HARVARD RADIO CLUB. There were Albert S. Hyman, Bob Almy and Peggie Murray. At first, they called their station Hyman-Almy-Murry. Tapping out such a long name in code soon called for a revision and they changed it to HY-AL-MU, using the first two letters of each name.
Early in 1909, some confusion resulted between signals from Amateur wireless HYALMU and a Mexican ship named HYALMO, so they decided to use only the first letter of each name and the call became HAM.
In the early pioneer unregulated days of radio, Amateur operators picked their own frequency and call letters. Then, as now, some Amateurs had better signals than some commercial stations. The resulting interference finally came to the attention of congressional committees in Washington and they gave much time to proposed legislation designed to critically limit Amateur activity.
In 1911, Albert Hyman chose the controversial Wireless Regulation Bill as the topic for his thesis at Harvard. His instructor insisted that a copy be sent to Senator David I. Walsh, a member of one of the committees hearing the bill. The Senator was so impressed, he sent for Hyman to appear before the committee. He was put on the stand and described how the little Amateur station was built. He almost cried when he told the crowded committee room that if the bill went through, they would have to close up the station because they could not afford the license fees and all the other requirements that were set up in the bill.
The debate started and the little station HAM became a symbol of all the little Amateur stations in the country crying out to be saved from menace and greed of the big commercial stations who did not want them around. Finally, the bill got to the floor of Congress and every speaker talked about the poor little station "HAM."
That's how it all started. You will find the whole story in the Congressional Record. Nationwide publicity associated station HAM with Amateurs. From that day to this, and probably to the end of time, in radio, an Amateur is a HAM.

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Why call it ham radio?

The word "ham" is the informal name give to amateur operators. It was first used in 1909, but did not gain widespread use until the 1920's when the term spread from the USA to Europe.
Up to about 1916, the word was used slang for "poor operator" or "incompetent". The term was also used by professional radiotelegraph operators to suggest that amateur enthusiasts were unskilled. Even among amateur radio operators, the term was used pejoratively at first by serious experimenters. For example, in December 1916 QST magazine, an amateur operator working on long distance message passing describes one way to avoid interference was to send messages “...on Thursday nights, when the children and spark coil ‘hams’ are tucked up in bed” (a “spark coil” referred to an unsophisticated transmitter made from an automobile ignition coil that produced noisy interference).
But only a few months later, in an indication of the changing use of the term among amateurs, a QST writer uses it in a clearly complimentary manner, saying that a particular 16 year old amateur operator “...is the equal of a ham gaining five years of experience by hard luck.”
Use of “ham” as a slur by professionals continued, however. A letter from a Western Union Telegraph Company employee, printed in the December, 1919 edition QST, showed familiarity with the word's negative connotations, expressing concern that "Many unknowing land wire telegraphers, hearing the word 'amateur' applied to men connected with wireless, regard him as a 'ham' or 'lid'".
Ham is now widely used by radio amateurs to describe themselves and their hobby.

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Other origins of the word "ham"
A few urban legends have arisen to explain the use of of the word including:

Ham-Fisted
"ham" is a shortened version of "ham-fisted", meaning clumsy. This is based on the fact that all early amateur radio stations used hand-operated telegraph keys to transmit Morse code, and sending style is referred to as an operator's "fist", so someone who sends badly could be called ham-fisted.

A little station called HAM
This widely circulated but fanciful tale claims that, around 1911, an impassioned speech made by Harvard University student Albert Hyman to the United States Congress, in support of amateur radio operators, turned the tide and helped defeat a bill that would have ended amateur radio activity entirely, by assigning the entire radio spectrum over to the military. An amateur station that Hyman supposedly shared with two others (Bob Almy and Peggie Murray), which was said to be using the self-assigned call sign HAM (short for Hyman-Almy-Murray), thus came to represent all of amateur radio. However, this story seems to have first surfaced in 1948, and practically none of the facts in the account check out, including the existence of "a little station called HAM" in the first place.

"Home Amateur Mechanic" magazine
In this version, supposedly HAM was derived from the initials of a "very popular" magazine which covered radio extensively. But there is no evidence that there ever was a magazine by this name.

Hertz-Armstrong-Marconi
It is sometimes claimed that HAM came from the first letter from the last names of three radio pioneers: Heinrich Rudolf Hertz, Edwin Armstrong, and Guglielmo Marconi. However, this cannot be the source of the term as Armstrong was an unknown college student when the term first appeared.

Hammarlund legend
Likely an example of corporate wishful thinking, Hammarlund products were supposedly so preeminent in the pioneering era of radio that they became a part of the language of radio. As the story goes, early radio enthusiasts affectionately referred to Hammarlund products as "Ham" products, and called themselves "Ham" operators. In truth, Hammarlund was a minor and barely known company at the time "ham" started to be used.

作者: 小樺 時間: 2016-1-7 07:46
諧音..
香腸 V.S 火腿

作者: BV4WN 時間: 2016-1-7 08:07
業餘無線電（Amateur Radio）它有個暱稱叫HAM Radio，一般翻譯為「火腿族」。HAM這個名字和全球無線電通訊的演進，有著密不可分的關係，因為距離現今100年前左右的科技水準，要僅憑個人興趣製作出無線電通訊設備，可稱上是難如升天。當時簡陋的無線電設備，在通訊過程中，由於各項零件的技術瓶頸，造成接收端的訊號中，夾雜著人耳可聽到的雜訊哼聲，英文就將此哼聲以 HAM 來表示；久而久之，就將領有業餘無線電人員執照的人稱為 HAM，這就是「火腿族」由來的說法之ㄧ。
由於無線電能夠多向溝通，而且車輛間也便於聯絡，加上價格大眾化又不需通話費，漸漸的不論是工作，還是旅遊，三五好友人手一支無線電，大家互相聊天、聯絡的情形愈來愈多；雖然大部分的人知道這樣使用是不合法的，但在過去要通過業餘無線電人員資格測試，而成為合法的「火腿族」是極為不容易之事，於是就當個小一號的「香腸」，逐漸大家對這些無執照的使用者自創暱稱為「香腸族」，這也是全球無線電界所俗稱的「海盜電台（ Pirate Station ；無電台呼號者之總稱）」。

作者: wusg1979 時間: 2016-1-7 08:11

BU2CK 發表於 2016-1-7 07:10
火腿族就是 HAM, 即表示有取得使用執照的人員; 而香腸族就是沒有取得使用執照的人員...
我想, 大概是香腸和 ...

香腸比火腿小隻

作者: kisc38340 時間: 2016-1-7 08:12
錯錯錯…………不是這樣

香腸是指玩vhf跟uhf的電台

火腿是指玩hf的電台

因為香腸便宜火腿貴………我來亂的

作者: 好彩頭 時間: 2016-1-7 16:29

可樂熊發表於 2016-1-7 01:00
簡單說就是有沒有取的使用執照

火腿族就是有取得使用執照，香腸族就是沒有 ...

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作者: TACO 時間: 2016-1-7 17:24
火腿比較大隻，所以用機器比較貴(例：座台機，32節八木天線)
香腸比較小條，所以用的機器相對便宜(例：手扒機，豬尾巴天線)

以上，酸~~~

作者: jungping 時間: 2016-1-9 15:01
我覺得，很多人開玩笑式的回答會讓新手分不清楚究竟何者為真、何者為假。

如果是開玩笑之言，還是註明一下是在開玩笑比較恰當。

作者: hfcqcqcq 時間: 2016-1-9 15:02

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作者: BM4K0M 時間: 2016-1-9 22:11

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作者: Morsecat 時間: 2016-1-10 00:29
1987年解嚴之後,UHF/VHF 車機,手持機,天線,功率放大器...等.通訊器材水貨大量登台,
一時之間都會區天空的電波日夜交叉穿梭不停,尤其是週末日VHF更是大爆滿.此不但引
起國安單位注意,連國外的衛星飄到臺灣上空也都得暫時關閉,當年負責偵監電波的警備
總部,常公告破穫非法電台(香腸族)的業績,尤其每年光輝的十月來臨前,都會實施大掃蕩
(颳颱風).被查獲的器材通常沒收,非法持有者,輕則寫悔過書加罰款,重則請去警局做筆錄
(泡茶)後,依違反國家總動員法,移送地檢署偵辦,留下終身案底.

沒有電腦網路的年代,都是靠這些收發機在閒聊哈啦.想合法取得執照(火腿族)其考試內容
並不是像現在只考來自題庫的選擇題,而是地理,英文,國際法規,電子學,通訊電學,電碼收發.
學科有非選擇題,沒有範圍,術科電碼速度相當於每分鐘65字,這個門檻讓全臺數十萬的香腸
族遊走在法律邊緣,一直到1996年才正式公告題庫,並區分四等級.之後再改成現行的三等級.

作者: 里賀 時間: 2016-1-11 17:05
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作者: skybmw5668s99 時間: 2016-2-5 05:47
原來是這樣區分的喔，那我以前的資訊全都是錯誤的，剛入門時.還以為火腿族是指"條件與裝備"都要很好，可以與和遠地區或外國通訊的友台耶，原來我錯的離譜....

作者: c469468 時間: 2016-2-12 13:22
原來如此，探討的真徹底呀…！！！

作者: kwan40pe 時間: 2016-7-23 18:12
這麼多「創意」回答真是有意思啊哈哈~

作者: lebron023 時間: 2016-12-20 21:35

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